Topic: Watch from whom you take your religious knowledge from!

[Aussie Advisor]

While revising and learning our religion is most important for all of us. We just need to be careful from whom we are taking our knowledge. In general, we should ask ourselves?

1. How did this person get his knowledge?? Did he or she get the knowledge from the ‘mouths’ of the scholars or just by reading books and surfing the net??

2. Does this person have a ‘Sanad’ for the knowledge he is giving us. In other words, who did he learn from? Did this person learn from those who have the continuos chain of knowledge back to the scholars and our prophet peace be upon him?
 
3. Does this person truly fear Allah? Is she / he concerned about himself and me? Would he speak without knowledge? Has this person ever said something against the scholarly consensus, the hadith or the Quran??

Lets remember what Ibn Sirin said: ‘This knowledge is religion so watch from whom you take your knowledge from”.

Brothers and sisters, while religious discussions with ‘reliable’ sources is valuable we need to ask the above questions to ourselves and simply think through before we utter or type in this case.  :-)

Remember the Hadith of our prophet: ‘ A person may utter a word that he thinks harmless, which results in his falling the depth of 70 years into hellfire’. Related by at-tirmithiyy in his book Al-Jami^ .

May Allah increase our knowledge.

[Mazhar]

Brother Aussie,

On this new thread you have pasted after cutting it from another thread “Something about Issa” initiated by sister Ema.

While revising and learning our religion is most important for all of us. We just need to be careful from whom we are taking our knowledge. In general, we should ask ourselves?

1. How did this person get his knowledge?? Did he or she get the knowledge from the ‘mouths’ of the scholars or just by reading books and surfing the net??

2. Does this person have a ‘Sanad’ for the knowledge he is giving us. In other words, who did he learn from? Did this person learn from those who have the continuos chain of knowledge back to the scholars and our prophet peace be upon him?
 
3. Does this person truly fear Allah? Is she / he concerned about himself and me? Would he speak without knowledge? Has this person ever said something against the scholarly consensus, the hadith or the Quran??

Lets remember what Ibn Sirin said: ‘This knowledge is religion so watch from whom you take your knowledge from”.

Brothers and sisters, while religious discussions with ‘reliable’ sources is valuable we need to ask the above questions to ourselves and simply think through before we utter or type in this case.   

Remember the Hadith of our prophet: ‘ A person may utter a word that he thinks harmless, which results in his falling the depth of 70 years into hellfire’. Related by at-tirmithiyy in his book Al-Jami^ .

May Allah increase our knowledge? {Aussoe Moderator}

Perhaps this is because of an oversight/omission since we understand that repeating one and the same thing time and again falls in the category of publicity; because the motive behind publicity is always to let the viewer and reader see the thing only from angle and to inculcate that into his mind.

Since Quran is sincere to humanity therefore its methodology is “tasreef Ayat”, i.e. it rotates the statement about knowledge to make it evident and understandable from all angles.

[Aussie Advisor]

Mr Mazhar

Just about every time you post we see your ignorance flourish even further. 

Yes, i decided to make what I wrote in the previous post clearer to access under a new thread. After all it was you that led me their when you belied what our prophet said.

Unlike you, most off us here hold great concern when it comes to gaining knowledge and not just take it from anywhere. As for those who are sincere in learning we fear for them not being fed the wrong info from those you speak without knowledge. 

With your post here its even clearer that you dont even care from where you get your knowledge if you tried too.

As a result, Mazhar previously known as Sami Zaatari on this site you are on a verge of a ban!

[Mazhar]

Why have you become panicked unnecessarily. I simply pointed out that this post is available on the thread and thouhgt perhaps it is an ommission. Who is this Sami Zaatri? If you think that knowledge about Islam is only that what you know and call is Islam, then why don't you add a rule on the forum that every member will say "yes" to what Aussie writes and should be taken as last word?

A man who does not have substance and believe in what he is saying, he is always afraid of being exposed and becomes unnecessarily panicked. What I have said that you should feel irritated and start threatening banning? Are you interested in convincing people or forcing your thoughts upon them?

[Aussie Advisor]

Its you being exposed with your deviant sayings in various posts of yours that has led to your panic!

Yes people like you who belie what the prophet came with irritate me!

The creed of ahlu-sunnah is not a loose-ended creed, rather it is well preserved. The Muslim scholars established rules and set the methodologies to protect it. Hence, it is not open for people like you to say what he desires about the religion.

The matter is simply; you have spoken numerously out of ignorance and you have been exposed. I have told you that Allah said in the Quran, the prophet peace be upon him said in the hadith and the scholars said and you come back with website links, false translations and Mazhar said!

1. I warned you about not promoting the use of the so called translation of Quran such as Yusuf Ali, Ibn Kathir and that last one you mentioned by the name of Maududi. I told you that contain Tashbih / kufur and you refuse to listen.

2. You belied the Quran and prophet in the previous post about prophet ^Issa that he will decend back to earth.

2. You denounced the appearance of Al-Mahdi after the prophet informed us about him in various hadith I previously posted.
 
So, Because I initiated this new thread out of concern for our readers to be wary from people spoking without knowledge you didn’t like it? And you dare to accuse me of seeking publicity!

Various readers of your posts have commented to me about your threads you initiate is that they cannot see where you are going. I certainly cant either!

Mazhar I ask you nicely to be careful one for your own sake and for the sake of people who are reading our Forum. Many, because of their weakness in the Arabic language and the religion have been led to false beliefs because of poor English translation. I advised you to stop cutting and pasting from websites here and there, not only do some off these sites contain errors as I explained earlier but your writing does not flow and is all over the place as a result. And you end up going off track over and over!

I Just want you to be careful and wish you the best!

[princess123]

What is wrong with repeating yourself mazhar?

The Prophet salla-llâhu ^alayhi wassalam would repeat himself 3 times sometimes to make things clearer.

Thankyou bro Aussie for your post, Allâh reward you

As for gaining your knowledge from proper sources, this is indeed very important. Would you trust someone to build your house when you had no knowledge of how he could build? Would you go to any person on the street for medical treatment? No you would find out if the person was qualified.

[Aussie Advisor]

Barakallahu feeki Sister Bash

its really a matter of common sense isnt it.....

One of us should not be satisfied with seeking knowledge / listening to the knowledge (doing the good deeds) until our end will be paradise!

Exactly Bash, for worldly matters we spend hours and days if not more to ensure we get the best. For university study many strive to get one with good reputation etc to succeed. We would want the best without doubt!

What about for the hereafter??? Do we want to be among the winners or the losers....

   

[princess123]

Indeed subHaan Allaah when people universities etc they take months choosing the right one and examining it. This life comes to an end whereas jannah and hell will not end by the will of Allaah, so more care should be taken when learning the religious knowledge, so we can attain high ranks in jannah, inshaa'Allaah.

We ask Allaah to make us among the pious believers and allow us to be winners on the Day of Judgement. As imaam ^Aliyy said what means "knowledge is better  than money, you have to protect your money, with knowledge it protects you".

Your sister Bash  :-)

[Aussie Advisor]

Ameen.


btw excuse me. sorry sister! Bash appeared to me like a guys name...

[princess123]

No problem

Seems many get confused!  :-D