Topic: How do they know who killed whom?

[syd]

http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/ISLAM/QURAN.HTM

read it here, its by one westerner like u!

[Resigned]

http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/ISLAM/QURAN.HTM

read it here, its by one westerner like u!

Not surprisingly, you made no attempt to address my earlier comments. You simply cut and pasted i link to something that you hope will support the dogma you have been indoctrinated with.

I think some clarification is in order. We actually do know the Koran was tampered with and that there are copies of copies made. The case can clearly be made that ‘Uthman’s Rescension was an obvious and explicit example of “changing.” An objective viewer would point out that change was part of process by which the koran was created.

Let’s first understand an important point. Even the earliest Korans were interpretations and translations fashioned upon interpretations and translations of stories and fables spoken by “reciters”.

These stories and fables had been recited by numerous reciters and then passed down and recited to others, and then to others and so on such that the original message is long gone and forgotten. If there is no original manuscript (and there isn’t), there is no way to know the level of corruption the Koran has been subjected to. Either way, the Koran now in existence may have no real resemblance to the originally recited tales and fables

I know people like to be excused from the discipline of criteria and definition, but... well, you've run across someone who is insisting that which you define maintains the integrity of its own definition. After all, it's only fair since you're the one making those definitions and arguing that they must be true. That's okay with me, as long as you don't completely dismantle them on your way to attempting to prove they are true.

[Resigned]

http://www.wsu.edu/~dee/ISLAM/QURAN.HTM

read it here, its by one westerner like u!

http://www.cnn.com/2005/WORLD/meast/08/26/alqaeda.book/index.html

Read it. It's by one islamist you like.

[The Full Moon]

.......tales and fables from the Koran?  It’s really silly to expect that anything worthwhile can be gained by memorizing a book of unknown origin and contains factual errors.

you do not have one lone version of the Koran.
 The fact remains that there is no solid reason to believe that the Koran which uthman ultimately authored is in any way an accurate accounting of the voices Mo’ claimed to have heard.
As Mo’ expanded himself as the messenger of the gods,

To be moderate does not mean to let people walk all over you. I dislike the way you are slandering Prophet Muhammad, Quran, and all Muslims.

We do have only one God and One Quran.  Too bad you can not claim the same about the book you believe in. But we believe that Jesus came with the Bible and we believe in everything he said .. he is another messenger of God and we believe in all of them.. It is so peaceful and meaningful to believe and not having that does make life meaningless.

Therefore, please go and read the Quran and what it means before you dare talking about it, and implying that it has error is a proof that you do not know a thing about it... or maybe you are choosing to read only what writers like you said.
If you do not wish to read it .. I feel pity for you because you are missing such an amazing benefits that can change your life. And if you do not believe that GOD exist, then you are truly in the wrong ... and May God guides you to the right path (Islam).

[The Full Moon]

We actually do know the Koran was tampered with and that there are copies of copies made. The case can clearly be made that ‘Uthman’s Rescension was an obvious and explicit example of “changing.” An objective viewer would point out that change was part of process by which the koran was created.

Let’s first understand an important point. Even the earliest Korans were interpretations and translations fashioned upon interpretations and translations of stories and fables spoken by “reciters”.

Hello ....

How many people pronounce or read english words differently all over the world, does that changes the meaning?
Stop ...... ,  go learn then come to have a knowledgeable conversation.

[Resigned]

To be moderate does not mean to let people walk all over you. I dislike the way you are slandering Prophet Muhammad, Quran, and all Muslims.

We do have only one God and One Quran.  Too bad you can not claim the same about the book you believe in. But we believe that Jesus came with the Bible and we believe in everything he said .. he is another messenger of God and we believe in all of them.. [/quote
You are mistaken about "One Quran". I explained previiously how your claim is false.

It is so peaceful and meaningful to believe and not having that does make life meaningless.

It's not at all as peaceful as you would claim. The continuing mass murders comitted by islamic terrorists contradicts your claim. Secondly, having false beliefs is what truly makes life meaningless.

Therefore, please go and read the Quran and what it means before you dare talking about it, and implying that it has error is a proof that you do not know a thing about it... or maybe you are choosing to read only what writers like you said.
If you do not wish to read it .. I feel pity for you because you are missing such an amazing benefits that can change your life. And if you do not believe that GOD exist, then you are truly in the wrong ... and May God guides you to the right path (Islam).

I have read the koran. That's why I can help teach you about it. If you are going to avoid seeking the truth, then you are truly in the wrong.

[Resigned]

Hello ....

How many people pronounce or read english words differently all over the world, does that changes the meaning?
Stop ...... ,  go learn then come to have a knowledgeable conversation.

Your comment doesn't address my post. This has nothing to do with simple pronunciation. Please try and understand what others are writing out and then see if you can author a coherent post.

[silkworm]

Resigned, Please behave and you are mounting accusations upon accusations and also are refraining from a sensible question I asked. One more thing please do not slender Prophet Mohammad pbuh or the Holy Qur'an. It would be nice to discuss this is civil manner. Thanks

[yoyo]

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[Resigned]

Resigned, Please behave and you are mounting accusations upon accusations and also are refraining from a sensible question I asked. One more thing please do not slender Prophet Mohammad pbuh or the Holy Qur'an. It would be nice to discuss this is civil manner. Thanks

I've mounted no accusations that cannot be explored. None of the points I have raised have been addressed.